Over the years, I’ve been happily posting two articles every week, and it’s been such a joy to share stories, discoveries, and little bits of horological history with you. But starting next week, I’m slowing the pace just a touch—one article a week, every Monday. Think of it as our standing Monday coffee together, with a side of clock talk.
You can still expect the same mix of topics that make this blog tick—clocks with a Canadian connection, my own adventures (and occasional misadventures!) in restoration and repair, the new treasures that wander into my collection, curious clocks with odd and wonderful histories, and of course, the thoughtful letters I receive from readers around the world. Those things will always be at the heart of what I share here.
A collection of clock movements in need of repair
You might think that posting less means I’m running out of ideas. In truth, it’s the exact opposite! The more I explore horology, the more I discover, the more I learn, and the more I want to share with you. Every clock has a personality and a story to tell, and there’s always another fascinating find or repair puzzle waiting just around the corner.
With nearly 1,000 articles already here (use the search feature), there’s plenty to explore while you’re waiting for the next post—whether it’s restoration tips, a deep dive into an unusual clock, or an interesting slice of history. This new schedule just gives each post a little more room to breathe, without changing the care and attention I put into them.
Arthur Pequegnat shelf and mantel clocks
Thank you for reading, for sharing your thoughts, and for being part of this little corner of the horology world. I’m excited for our new Monday routine—and I have a feeling you’ll enjoy the new pace just as much as I will.
Until next time—keep your clocks wound and your curiosity ticking.
Having worked on a number of German and American clock movements recently, I began reflecting on the differences in design philosophy, construction methods, and overall durability between modern German movements from the past 30 to 40 years and American movements made over a century ago.
These comparisons reveal not just technical contrasts but also shifting attitudes toward repair, longevity, and manufacturing priorities.
In the early stages of any product’s history, things are often built better than necessary—if only because the technology was so new that no one had yet figured out how to make it cheaper and less durable.
Early American banjo clocks were lovingly handcrafted
The cost and production methods of clocks have evolved significantly over time. Originally, antique clocks were handcrafted with great skill and time investment, which made them expensive and exclusive. Later, industrial advances like assembly line manufacturing lowered production costs and made clocks more affordable and accessible to a wider audience.
So, when comparing antique and modern clocks, it’s important to keep in mind these differences in how they were made and priced.
Is Every Clock Reparable?
Do modern movements wear out faster? I often see estimates of 25 to 30 years as the economic lifespan of a modern movement. Of course, mileage may vary, but most would agree that this is a reasonable average.
Is every clock repairable? Most are. It is perfectly feasible to tear down, clean, and rebush/repivot a modern German movement, provided the manufacturer has not used automated assembly techniques that make disassembly very difficult, if not impossible.
Vintage 3-train movement from Germany
Maintenance is time-consuming and, consequently, costly. A skilled clockmaker can tear down, clean, rebush, and rebuild most movements in a few days—and may charge around several hundred dollars for their work. Of course, if you are proficient in clock repair, you can absorb the costs even though you contribute the time needed to fix the clock.
Replacement rather than repair has pushed modern manufacturing into the ‘it’s cheaper to buy a new one than to fix it’ category. This trend mirrors the auto repair industry, where many vehicle owners find that repair costs often approach or exceed the value of their car, prompting them to purchase a new or used vehicle instead. Clocks are not exempt from this pattern. Most common clocks—unless they have special provenance—are far more expensive to repair than they are worth.
If the inflation-adjusted estimates are accurate, the price of mass-produced clocks from the past isn’t significantly different from that of today’s clocks. This may be due, at least in part, to economies of scale that allowed manufacturers of the time to offer higher-quality clocks at relatively lower prices.
Skilled trades or specialized workers (e.g., machinists, toolmakers) in 1920s Canada could earn $25–$40 per week, roughly the cost of a family clock
You can buy a brand-newHermlemovement for about half the cost of repair, so most customers and clock repairers opt for replacement after discussing the options with the owner.
The Wear-out Factor
Do modern movements actually “wear out” faster than those made one hundred years ago, or is it just that the manufacturing efficiencies have made modern ones so cheap they are uneconomic to repair?
I’ve compiled a chart to illustrate the differences between American clocks manufactured over 100 years ago and German clocks produced between the 1950s and 1980s, based on my observations and research into clock repair.
Lightweight, more delicate components, tiny pivots, plated pivots, temporarily
Tolerance for Wear
High—can run even when bushings are very worn
Wear develops quickly, multiple bushings are often needed
Pivot Hole Wear
Slow to develop, sometimes bushing is not required
Increased pivot wear made for a shorter lifespan, made serviceable by the factory
Design Philosophy
Long-lasting, serviceable by owners
Increased pivot wear made for a shorter lifespan, making it serviceable by the factory
Mechanism Complexity
Simple strike/spring trains, easy to diagnose and remedy
Self-correcting chime/strike, more moving parts, greater chance of malfunction
Mainsprings
Powerful, overbuilt, are often reusable
Narrower, tightly wound, sometimes prone to breakage, often reusable
Service Requirements
Can go years without a service
Sensitive to dry oil or dirt; must be oiled regularly, shorter period between services
Common Issues
Dirty oil, broken mainsprings, worn bushings
Worn bushings, broken chime hammers, gear slop
Longevity (w/o service)
25 to 50 years
20–30 years
Ease of Repair Today
High – parts are widely available, with forgiving tolerances
Pre-war German clocks were very robust, and post-war had a designed lifespan
Intended Lifespan
Generational/heirloom use
Pre-war German clocks were very robust, post-war had a designed lifespan
Notable Exceptions
Cheaper “kitchen clocks” with thinner plates
Some plastic gears are used, cheaper components
*Increasing the amount of zinc in brass can make the metal more cost-effective and easier to machine, but it also tends to make the alloy less durable and more prone to dezincification (where zinc leaches out, weakening the metal).
Final Thoughts
Understanding the history and evolution of clock manufacturing helps us appreciate the balance between craftsmanship, durability, and affordability.
Unique and handcraftedEnglishtravel clock
While antique clocks showcase the skill and time invested by individual makers, modern movements benefit from advances in manufacturing that make quality clocks more accessible, though often at the cost of durability and repairability. These factors allow collectors and enthusiasts to make informed decisions and better appreciate the unique value each era of clockmaking offers.
To all my horology friends south of the border—Happy Independence Day!
As you gather with friends and family to celebrate the birth of your nation, I wanted to take a moment to salute your enduring love for antique and vintage clocks. Whether you collect Ansonia, Seth Thomas, Gilbert, or Howard, or any of the other noted American clock producers, your passion for preserving the legacy of American clockmaking adds something timeless to this day of celebration.
Many of the finest examples of American ingenuity can be found not only in your founding documents and fireworks but also in the gears and gongs of your historic clocks. From early wooden movements to robust steel mainsprings, the story of American clocks is one of invention, ambition, and craftsmanship. What better day to wind up a classic, set it ticking, and reflect on all that history?
So raise a toast to liberty, craftsmanship, and clocks that keep ticking through the ages.
From your horology friend up north—Happy 4th of July, and may your time be well spent!
I enjoy writing about the clocks in my collection, but I often receive emails from fellow clock enthusiasts who have invested time and energy into their own collection. I’m sure they would love to showcase their clocks, but lack the necessary platform.
Here is my offer to you. If you have a clock in your collection that holds a special place in your heart, I invite you to share its story. Whether it’s a valuable antique, a common vintage clock that tells a story, something quite unusual, or a challenging repair story you’d like to share, I’d love to hear what makes your clock tick.
If this is something that interests you, please send me several photos along with some notes about the piece. Feel free to include the history behind it or any interesting details that make it stand out. There’s no need to write an article yourself; you can if you like but I’d be happy to craft one for you based on the details you provide. Just send the photos (under 1 MB, in .jpg format) and any information you’d like to include, and I’ll take care of the rest! Let me know if you’d like to review a draft of the article before it goes live.
A 1 mb image like this one preserves enough detailfor display online
To protect your privacy, I’ll use only the first and last letters of your name along with your country of residence—excluding specific locations. I’m excited to feature your cherished clock(s)! Please note that I have several articles in the queue, so it may take some time before yours appears.
By submitting your photos, you grant me permission to publish them along with your story on the blog.
It’s the little things that count in life. While this expression holds true in many aspects of our lives, it is equally true when it comes to antique and vintage clock repair.
This article highlights tools that can be invaluable for clock repair. Though not strictly essential, once you start using them, you’ll likely wonder how you ever managed without them. Additionally, these tools are relatively inexpensive and even more affordable on the used market.
Here is a list in no order of importance. Some of these items you will no doubt find more useful than others.
Magnetic flashlights
These tools are very handy for probing the dark corners of a clock case or troubleshooting the internals of a movement. They simply magnetically attach to the shaft of a screwdriver. The only drawback is the odd-sized batteries, which can sometimes be difficult to find.
The one on the left has two LED lights and turns on automatically when attached, meaning the battery drains if you forget to remove it. The one on the right, with one LED, has a push-button on/off switch. I like the one on the right.
This one is interesting because it features a telescoping magnet attachment, which is useful for illuminating an area when trying to retrieve a steel screw in a clock case, for example. It also uses readily available CR2025 button batteries.
Pivot Locator
I’ve seen a few different designs for pivot locators, but I find this one to be excellent for nudging and pulling those tiny pivots into place. If you’ve ever broken a pivot while reassembling a movement, you know how challenging it can be to fit a new pivot into an arbour. This little tool will avoid that agony.
And a closer view.
Movement Holder
I also have a set of four legs, otherwise called clamp assembly supports, that screw into the bottom plate when working on a movement, but I find they mar the corners of the movement and leave unsightly marks. A piece of 4-inch pipe cut from a plastic water or sewage pipe works perfectly.
Accessory Containers
A dollar store is a great place to find all sorts of practical containers that are both useful and very affordable. This one, with separate compartments, is ideal for storing an assortment of different-sized screws.
For storing brass and steel clock pins a camera filter container is perfect.
For storing all kinds of tiny items these containers can be purchased for a dollar or so per dozen.
Crucial for separating parts when disassembling a movement, they are also useful for preventing parts from going astray. Additionally, they are stackable and come in various sizes with the smallest size shown below.
Punch
I certainly do not advocate punching a clock plate to close a pivot hole, but a punch is useful for many other tasks. such as marking a spot for drilling, setting a reference point, or lightly shaping the edges of a part.
Precision Screwdrivers
They come in a multitude of sizes and head types, making them very useful for working with small screws on clock movements.
Slotted Screw Holding Driver
It’s called a driver, but its real purpose is to guide the screw into place.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve dropped a screw into a case and spent time trying to fish it out while reinstalling a movement.
When I saw these, it felt like a miracle. While they can’t drive the screw all the way in, they allow you to turn it a couple of times, making it ready for a screwdriver to finish the job.
Compact tools and accessories may not be essential for clock repair, but they certainly make the work much easier and more efficient, offering valuable benefits. These tools are not only affordable but most are readily available, making them accessible for anyone looking to enhance their clock repair experience.
Whether you’re a seasoned professional or a hobbyist, investing in these practical, easy-to-find tools can make your work much less frustrating, helping you achieve better results with greater ease and fewer obstacles.
When selling an antique clock, proper preparation can make all the difference in attracting buyers and securing a fair price. Whether you’re parting with a cherished antique or vintage clock from a collection or selling one inherited from a loved one, taking the right steps ensures a smooth transaction.
Selling in lots might attract more buyers
In this article, I’ll use a real inquiry I received—where a clock owner sought guidance on selling a collection after the passing of a loved one—to walk you through the process. From assessing a clock’s condition and researching its value to choosing the best platform for the sale, this guide will help you make informed decisions and achieve the best possible outcome.
SN Writes
I have an odd question. I have several antique clocks that I need to sell. Can you give me insight on how to go about this? My husband passed away and collected them. I have funeral and taxes to pay and need to sell them. Thank you in advance for your help.
(I’ve formatted my reply into bullet points to make the information clearer and easier to follow.)
Light dusting is fine, but avoid over-cleaning or restoring
My Reply
I’m very sorry for your loss. Selling your husband’s clock collection can be overwhelming, but there are several ways to approach it to ensure you get a fair price:
Online Marketplaces:eBay reaches a global audience but involves fees and shipping. Etsy is good for decorative or unique clocks. Provide clear photos, detailed descriptions, and any history or provenance.
Local Auctions & Antique Dealers: Auction houses specializing in antiques attract serious collectors. Antique shops and dealers may buy outright, though often at a lower price for resale. Some shops also offer consignment.
Collector Communities: Facebook groups, clock forums, and local clock clubs can connect you with enthusiasts willing to pay fair prices.
Estate Sales & Local Listings: If selling multiple items, an estate sale might be an efficient option. Platforms like Craigslist, Kijiji, and Facebook Marketplace can also attract local buyers. Always meet in a safe location.
Appraisals & Pricing: Consider having the clocks appraised to understand their value. Research similar listings to set realistic prices.
Preparing to Sell:
Handle with Care: Light dusting is fine, but avoid over-cleaning or restoring, as collectors prefer originality.
Highlight Unique Features: Mention rare makers, historical significance, and craftsmanship.
Sell Individually or in Lots: Valuable clocks might fetch better prices when sold separately, while more common ones may do better in groups.
In the end, selling a collection—especially one built over many years—can feel like a daunting task, particularly under difficult circumstances. But with a thoughtful approach—assessing condition, researching value, and choosing the right selling platform—it becomes far more manageable. Each clock has its own story and potential buyer; the key is presenting it well and setting realistic expectations. I let SN know that I would be happy to assist further with pricing, appraisals, or advice on selling individual clocks, and the same holds true for anyone navigating a similar process.
As the holiday season is upon us, I’ve decided to take a break from writing and updating my blog to enjoy some much-needed downtime.
The past year has been filled with exciting clock-related adventures, research, and restoration projects, and now it’s time to step back, recharge, and spend time with loved ones. I look forward to returning in the New Year, refreshed and ready to continue sharing my passion for antique clocks, repairs, and restoration.
Upcoming articles in 2025 include:
Pequegnat Jewel Dial Restoration | A Case For Inpainting | Part II
What is My Clock Worth? (Revision of a past blog article)
Reflections on a Year of Clock Collecting and Repair (top purchases in 2024)
On My Workbench | Type 89 Movement by Seth Thomas and a Strike Side Issue
Essential Tips for Clock Case Care
When Clocks Had One Hand
Troubleshooting A Strike Issue on a HAC/HAU Movement
Restoring a Vintage Mauthe Box Clock | Evoking Family Memories | Part I
I’m always on the lookout for fresh content, so if you have any clock-related topics you’d like me to explore, please feel free to share your thoughts and ideas!
Wishing everyone a wonderful holiday season, and I’ll see you again soon in 2025!
Wishing you all health and happiness this Christmas season!
Every year, my kids stress over what to get me for Christmas. They know I’m passionate about antique clocks and spend my time restoring and repairing them. “Is there anything he needs?” they ask their mum.
Holiday in Lego Land
Honestly, it’s the little things I really appreciate in my Christmas stocking. Kids, if you want to surprise me, just throw in a new pair of cloth gloves, a box of toothpicks, some cotton swabs, or a paintbrush, oh, and some solder (I did run out of that!) – that’s all I really need to know you’re thinking of me.
Christmas at home
Christmas is about joy, not about extravagant gifts unless they come with love and appreciation for those we care about. So, if you’re trying to find the perfect gift for the clock lover in your family, remember – it’s the simple things that count.
I hope this wonderful time of the year touches your heart and brings joy to you and your loved ones in a special way. And if there’s a clock under the tree, consider it a timely gift (get it!), reminding you of fond memories and family gatherings filled with love, laughter, and delicious food.
Hmm, wait a minute, about that extravagant gift…..ah, just kidding!
Thanks for all your letters! I may take a little longer to reply this time of year, but I appreciate each and every one.
You have just brought a clock that was running smoothly when you first saw it. You bring it home, select a location to display it, reattach the pendulum, and give it a slight push but after a few seconds, it stops. One crucial aspect of keeping a mechanical clock functioning properly is making sure it is “in beat.”
This article assumes that your clock is equipped with a pendulum rather than a balance wheel or platform escapement. A pendulum on a clock is a weight suspended from a pivot so that it can swing freely back and forth. The pendulum’s regular, consistent motion is used to regulate the time on your clock.
What does In-beat Mean
When a clock is “in beat,” it means that the pendulum swings symmetrically, with equal time intervals between the ticks and tocks. This even rhythm ensures that the escapement releases energy consistently, which is essential for keeping accurate time. You will hear a steady “tick-tock” rhythm, with equal spacing between each tick and tock.
If the rhythm sounds irregular—like “tick-tick… tock-tock” or has uneven gaps—the clock is out of beat, meaning the pendulum is not swinging properly in balance.
Ogee clock showing a brass pendulum bob
As the pendulum swings, it controls the release of the clock’s escapement, which allows the gear train to move in a controlled manner, driving the clock’s hands forward.
How to Correct a Clock That’s Out of Beat
Method 1: Tilting the Clock
One way to fix a clock that’s out of beat is by gently tilting it sideways while listening for the sound to become even. Once you hear an even tick-tock pattern, prop the clock in place to maintain the tilt. While this method works, the clock may end up looking tilted and uneven in its position.
Method 2: Adjusting the Crutch
The second method is more precise and involves adjusting the crutch. The crutch is the rod that extends down from the pallets and rocks back and forth with the escape wheel. The pendulum rod passes through a crutch loop or fork at the end of the crutch, and it’s important to ensure the pendulum rod sits in the middle of the loop without being too tight or too loose. The crutch connects to the pendulum leader, which is then attached to a post with a suspension spring.
Movement crutch and pendulum leader
For mantel clocks, making this adjustment is relatively straightforward, as they usually feature rear access doors. Through these doors, you can easily reach the crutch, pendulum rod, and bob. If your clock has a wire crutch (brass wire is pliable), gently bending the wire slightly at the midpoint in either direction will help correct the beat.
For English and German-style clocks, you can make a slight adjustment to the crutch on one side or the other since the crutch is connected to the escapement arbour and fits snugly but moves enough to make an adjustment. Moving it alters the entry and drop of the escapement pallet and corrects the beat.
Additionally, you may need to adjust the height of the escapement by loosening two screws on the suspension spring post and repositioning the pallet, a process that requires time and patience and is best performed on a movement test stand.
Wall clocks, on the other hand, require more effort to perform a beat adjustment. To access the crutch on a wall clock, you’ll need to remove the hands— the minute hand is held by a screw or pin, and the hour hand pulls off— and then remove the dial, which is usually attached with screws. Once these parts are removed the crutch can be adjusted.
Minor beat adjustments on wall clocks can also be made by slightly tilting the clock. The tilt may or may not be noticeable.
A One-Time Procedure
The good news is that you’ll only need to adjust the beat once. Whether your clock is a wall clock, mantel clock, time-only, time and strike, or time, strike, and chime, the principles remain the same. This is a straightforward DIY procedure, so professional help is not necessary.
Moving the Clock
If you relocate the clock to a different spot, it’s often necessary to repeat the process of checking and adjusting it to be in-beat. This is because changes in the environment, such as variations in surface level or vibration from nearby activities, can affect the pendulum’s swing. After moving the clock, always recheck if it is in beat. You may need to re-adjust the pendulum’s crutch to ensure a smooth and even tick-tock rhythm.
Final thoughts
If your clock is not running and efforts to put it in beat have no effect, several underlying issues require remediation. If there is significant wear of the pivots or pivot holes, wear in the pinions, there are broken components, or dried oil creating friction in the movement, all of which may need attention to restore the movement’s function.
After the movement has been serviced, adjusting the clock to be in-beat becomes a much easier task.
For a more comprehensive or technical examination, horological journals, articles, and bulletins provide in-depth insights into the physics of escapement design and theory. However, I trust that this simple explanation will suffice.
There’s something wonderfully calming about the rhythmic ticking of a perfectly in-beat clock.
Every clock owner wants to know what their clock is worth, and every seller hopes to sell for as much as possible. This guide offers a framework to evaluate antique and vintage clocks for both buyers and sellers, starting with insights into the unpredictable clock market.
The Unpredictable Clock Market
Determining the value of a clock is often challenging. The market fluctuates, and what you think your clock is worth today may not align with expert opinions or what buyers are willing to pay. Trends come and go, and the value of clocks can drop or rise unexpectedly.
For example, I once came across a mid-1990s Howard Miller grandfather clock listed on Facebook Marketplace for $3,000. After several days with minimal interest, the seller gradually lowered the price to $1,500, but it still did not sell. In reality, it was only worth around $500 on a good day.
This shows how subjective personal value can be, and the reality is that modern clocks, like many Ridgeway or Howard Miller models, often do not hold their original value. What you believe holds significant value may not align with what potential buyers are willing to pay.
Scottish tall case clock
Even an appraised value is just an educated opinion, reflecting current market conditions, the clock’s condition, and its collectibility. As market trends shift, the value of a clock can change significantly.
Factors in Assessing Clock Value
Is It Original? Originality significantly impacts value. Clocks with replaced or missing parts tend to lose their appeal to collectors. Many “Vienna Regulators” found online, for example, are hybrids of mismatched cases and movements. In some instances, parts are missing altogether.
Gustav Becker Vienna Regulator
Clocks marketed as “complete and original” by sellers who admit they know little about clocks should be approached with extreme caution. Always verify the clock’s parts with an expert or a reputable auction house to ensure accuracy.
What Type or Style Is It? The style or type of clock affects value. While common American mantel clocks may be worth little due to their mass production, specific models like the E.N. Welch “Patti” line or Seth Thomas Sonora clocks command high prices.
Wall clocks, especially those from the 19th century made in limited quantities, generally hold a higher value than mantel clocks which were produced in the thousands.
Seth Thomas #2 wall clock
Grandfather clocks, also known as hall clocks, longcase, or tallcase clocks, can often be acquired for a fraction of their value, despite many that are 150+ years old. Tall clocks are bulky, requiring significant floor space. Many people don’t have the room or the inclination to accommodate such large items, especially in smaller or more modern living spaces.
A Label, Trademark, or Prominent Name adds Value An intact label, trademark, or known maker adds value. A clock with a visible maker’s mark, such as an E. Howard or an original Willard banjo clock, is often sought after due to their craftsmanship and brand recognition.
A label, trademark, or maker’s mark verifies the clock’s authenticity, confirming that it is an original piece from a recognized manufacturer. This eliminates doubts about whether the clock is a reproduction or a mix of parts, which increases its value to collectors.
Pequegnat Canadian Time clock label
A visible maker’s mark or label helps establish the clock’s provenance, providing important information about its origin, manufacturer, and production period. Clocks with clear histories, especially from reputable makers, are more desirable because they can be accurately placed within historical or stylistic contexts.
A clock’s history can boost its value. A story or historical significance attached to a clock, or a clock with a clear and documented background may attract more buyers and command a higher price.
Reproduction labels or unmarked movements raise red flags for serious collectors.
The Correct Period or a Reproduction? Period authenticity is key. Many reproduction clocks closely resemble originals from the early 1900s but have far less value. For example, Seth Thomas reissued its famous Regulator #2 in the 1970s, but collectors prefer the originals from the late 1800s, which have clearer distinguishing features.
Reproduction clocks are often made with modern manufacturing techniques and less expensive materials, resulting in a lower quality product compared to hand-crafted originals. Collectors and buyers appreciate the craftsmanship of original clocks, which were made with more attention to detail and durability.
Some sellers would pass off this 1970s Jauch clock as an antique
Original clocks from the early 1900s carry historical value due to their connection to a specific time period, reflecting the craftsmanship, design, and technology of that era. Reproduction clocks, even if they mimic the look of the originals, lack this historical significance, making them less valuable to collectors.
Novice collectors are often tempted by reproductions (particularly if the clock is passed off as original), and if they’re uncertain, they should consult a professional for guidance.
Age and Condition A clock’s condition is crucial to its value. Clocks with missing pieces, broken hands, or poorly repainted dials are worth much less, even if they are from reputable makers. Age alone does not guarantee value—certain styles or makers, despite being centuries old, may not be popular among collectors.
Some buyers are specifically looking for clocks in original, unrestored condition, even with signs of wear. Restoration can eliminate the clock’s patina, which is often considered part of its historical appeal.
A well-functioning clock is more appealing to buyers. Properly repairing the movement restores its functionality, often increasing its resale value, as people are naturally drawn to a working clock.
In some cases, restoring a clock too thoroughly—by polishing, repainting, or replacing parts—can strip away its historical character. Over-restored clocks may look “too new,” which can detract from their antique charm and value.
Arthur Pequegnat Maple Leaf fantop restored case
The cost of repairing or refinishing a clock may outweigh the potential increase in resale value. If the clock isn’t particularly rare or valuable, to begin with, investing heavily in restoration may not yield a return in the marketplace. Sellers often do not service their clocks, either because they lack the necessary skills or because the cost of repair doesn’t justify the potential profit.
Is the Clock Collectible? Desirability can be influenced by rarity and regional interest. For instance, Arthur Pequegnat clocks are highly sought after in Canada but may fetch lower prices outside the country. True Vienna Regulators from the early 19th century are another example of rare clocks that remain valuable, especially when they are original and authentic.
The Mechanism Type The complexity of a clock’s mechanism can impact its value. Clocks with a three-train mechanism (time, strike, and chime) tend to be more valuable than simpler two-train or one-train models.
Clocks with more complex mechanisms, such as those with three-train movements, demonstrate a higher level of craftsmanship. These mechanisms control multiple functions, like chiming, striking, and keeping time, requiring greater precision and skill in their design and assembly. As a result, clocks with such elaborate mechanisms are often considered superior and more desirable, elevating their market value.
More complex mechanisms, like three-weight Vienna Regulator Grande Sonnerie clocks, are generally rarer than their single- or two-train counterparts. The production of these complex movements required more skill and was often reserved for higher-end models or special commissions, making them less common and more sought after by collectors. Their scarcity in the market can drive up their value, especially when the clock is in good working condition with original parts.
Collectors often prioritize clocks with intricate mechanisms because they showcase the ingenuity and technological advancements of their time. The presence of a three-train mechanism, or a clock with additional complications like chiming or an alarm, indicates a higher level of mechanical achievement. These clocks are often seen as more valuable historical artifacts, and their complexity can make them the centerpiece of a collection.
On the flip side, clocks with more complex mechanisms can be harder and more expensive to repair or maintain, which may deter some buyers. A three-train movement has more moving parts that could potentially break down or require servicing, and specialized knowledge is often needed to repair them. However, collectors willing to invest in these repairs typically appreciate the value of the clock and understand that the effort is worth it.
Do Your Research and Meet the Seller In Person!
Before buying or selling a clock, check eBay listings, reputable auction houses, local buy-and-sell sites, antique shops, and online message boards. Prices can be volatile, and what may have sold for a high price years ago may be worth much less today. For example, some clocks that were once highly valued, are now relatively inexpensive due to oversupply.
Antique shops are potential places for a good buy
As a buyer, ask detailed questions and verify originality before making a purchase. Sellers should provide an honest and clear description of their clock, disclosing any replaced parts or modifications. Keep in mind that while the clock market may seem chaotic, high-end, sought-after clocks tend to retain their value over time.
Meeting the seller face to face is often the best approach. A personal meeting allows buyers to gauge the seller’s honesty and integrity, making them feel more secure in their purchase.
Seeing the clock in person allows the buyer to closely inspect its condition, functionality, and any potential issues that may not be apparent in photos. This firsthand assessment helps buyers make informed decisions about the clock’s value and condition. They can check for labels, trademarks, and other identifying features that may influence the clock’s value. Buyers can also evaluate the quality of craftsmanship and materials up close.
Face-to-face meetings provide a better opportunity for negotiation. Buyers can engage in real-time discussions, express their concerns, and potentially negotiate a fair price based on the clock’s condition and market value. In-person interactions often lead to more flexible negotiations than online communications.
Sellers who are passionate about their clocks can provide detailed information about the piece’s history, repairs, and provenance often enhancing the buying experience and adding value to the transaction.
Photos can be misleading, and details may be overlooked in written descriptions. Meeting the seller face to face reduces the risk of misrepresentation, as buyers can directly address any discrepancies they find during their inspection.
Meeting in person can eliminate the need for shipping, which can be costly and risky for fragile antique clocks. Buyers can transport the clock themselves, ensuring it arrives safely.
If you have any doubts or the answers you’re receiving from the seller seem uncertain, always—without exception—be prepared to walk away.
Now is a good time to buy or sell
Now is an excellent time to buy, as many bargains can be found with careful research. For sellers, patience and realistic expectations are key. Understanding the market, setting fair prices, and presenting items attractively will increase your chances of success. Whether buying or selling, doing your homework is essential to navigating this unpredictable landscape.
Determining the age of a clock can be challenging, especially since listings often don’t specify the exact year the clock was made. However, you might come across phrases like “mid-century”, antique, collectible, or vintage which can give you a general sense of its age. If the description is accurate, it provides a good starting point for determining the age of the clock.
As a rule of thumb, an antique is something that is over 100 years old, while a vintage item is between 30 and 100 years old. Anything less than 30 years old may sometimes be considered vintage, but it’s often labeled as collectible instead.
Mauthe clock from the 1950s
Dating a clock can indeed be challenging, but it’s an essential part of understanding its history, value, and significance. Here are some thoughts and strategies to help narrow down the age of a clock:
Identifying Maker’s Marks and Signatures
One of the most reliable ways to date a clock is by identifying the maker’s mark or signature. Some clockmakers stamped or engraved their name, logo, or serial number on the movement, dial, or case. Researching the history of the maker may not offer an exact date but will often provide a time frame for when the clock was produced.
McLachlan tall-case clock with painted dial was made in Newton Stewart, Scotland in 1848
Some manufacturers used serial numbers that can be cross-referenced with production records or databases maintained by collectors or horological societies. Having a serial number doesn’t always guarantee that it can be cross-referenced with a database, as clock databases are often not accessible online.
This Tompion tall case clock can be accurately dated
Analyzing the Style and Design
The design of the clock case can provide clues to its age. For example, Gothic Revival designs were popular in the mid-19th century, while Art Deco styles were prevalent in the 1920s and 1930s. Recognizing these stylistic trends can help you estimate the clock’s production period.
Another example is the German box clock, which gained popularity after Vienna-style clocks fell out of fashion in the early 20th century, remaining in vogue until around 1935.
Vienna-style time and strike clock by Mauthe C. 1900
The style of the clock’s dial can also be indicative of its age. Painted dials were common in the early 19th century, while enamel and porcelain dials became more popular later on. The use of Roman versus Arabic numerals can also offer hints, with Arabic numerals becoming more common in the 20th century.
Logos can be used to date a clock. Trademark logos are typically stamped on the clock movement. Manufacturers modified their trademark design from time to time. As companies grew and evolved, their branding shifted to reflect new values, target markets, or aesthetic trends.
Evolution of the Mauthe brand
Movement Type
The type of movement inside the clock can also be a good indicator of its age. For example, early mechanical movements with verge escapements date back to the 17th and 18th centuries, while spring-driven movements became common from 1840 onward.
The introduction of electric movements in the early 20th century marked a significant shift in clockmaking.
Sessions electric clock from the early 1920s
If the clock has a pendulum, its design can also be telling. Early pendulums were often long and ornate, while later ones might be shorter and simpler.
The introduction of the torsion pendulum, used in anniversary clocks, dates to the late 19th century.
Many clocks made after 1950 used an adjustable floating balance escapement that was less sensitive to variations in temperature and external influences. This stability results in more accurate timekeeping compared to traditional escapements.
Materials Used
The type of wood or veneer used in the clock’s case can help date it. Certain woods were more popular in specific eras, such as oak in the late 19th century or walnut in the early 20th century. Rosewood veneer was particularly popular in the mid-19th century, often used to create an elegant and luxurious finish on clock cases.
The materials used in the clock’s movement and case can also provide clues. For example, brass was widely used in clock movements from the 18th century onwards, while cheaper metal alloys became common in the 20th century.
Patent Dates
Some clocks, especially those from the late 19th and early 20th centuries, include patent dates on the movement or case. While the patent date itself doesn’t indicate when the clock was made, it provides a “no-earlier-than” date. For example, if a patent date of 1915 is stamped on the movement, the clock was made after that year.
Labels and Documentation
Many clocks, especially those from the 19th and early 20th centuries, came with paper labels on the back or inside the case. These labels often include the maker’s name, the place of manufacture, and sometimes even the model or patent date. For American-made clocks, the address of the label printer often provides a clue to the clock’s manufacturing date as shops often relocated.
Hamilton Clock Company label
The country of origin can also influence the style and dating of a clock. For instance, certain types of clocks were more prevalent in specific regions, like the tall-case (grandfather) clocks in England during the 18th century, or the ornate mantel clocks popular in France in the 19th century.
If the clock has been in the same family for generations, old sales receipts, repair records, or original packaging can provide valuable information about its age.
Any accompanying documentation with the clock could offer some valuable clues. The certificate of guarantee from the retailer [see below] indicates a sale date of May 18, 1930, meaning the clock was manufactured before this date. It could have been made several months or even a year or two prior, though the exact date of manufacture remains unknown.
Research and Expert Consultation
There are many reference books and catalogs dedicated to specific types of clocks, makers, and periods. These resources can be invaluable in identifying and dating a clock.
Clock magazines provide well-researched insights into clocks
Tran Duy Lyis a well-known author and expert in the field of antique clocks and horology. He is particularly renowned for his extensive series of reference books on antique clocks, which are highly regarded by collectors, dealers, and enthusiasts. His books typically feature detailed information, photographs, and pricing guides for various types of clocks, including those by specific manufacturers like Seth Thomas, Ansonia, and Gilbert.
Ly’s works have become essential resources for those looking to identify, appraise, and learn more about antique clocks, and his name is synonymous with authoritative clock references in the horological community.
If you’re uncertain about the age of a clock, consulting with a professional appraiser or horologist can provide you with a more accurate assessment. Experts can often recognize subtle details and variations that indicate the clock’s age.
Conclusion
Dating a clock requires a combination of research, observation, and sometimes expert consultation. By examining the maker’s marks, design, movement type, materials, and other characteristics, you can often narrow down the clock’s age to a specific period or even a precise year. Understanding these details not only enhances the clock’s historical significance but also helps in determining its value and collectibility.
The dashboard that forms part of the WordPress blog package offers a fascinating array of statistical information. It empowers me to track the viewership of my articles and gain insights into readers’ interests, as indicated by the number of clicks, which serves as a valuable measure of engagement.
So far in the year 2024, antiquevintageclock.com has received an impressive total of 67,495 visitors, who collectively generated 122,065 page views. On average, each visitor explored the site with 1.83 views, which tells me that there is a significant level of interest in antique and vintage clocks.
Visitors came from a diverse range of 162 countries. So, let’s take a closer look at the top ten countries that contributed to the website’s viewership:
USA
United Kingdom
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
South Africa
India
Ireland
Netherlands
France
Google “Key Events” is a concise and organized summary of significant events related to a blog site or any other website. It enables me to monitor real-time activity. For example, in a snapshot taken as this article was being written, there were visitors from America, France, Kazakhstan, and Australia.
English-speaking countriesare my principle audience
I am located in the beautiful province of Nova Scotia, Canada, write in English and as such I have attracted a significant portion of visitors from predominantly English-speaking countries. My blog’s antique clock content is attracting traffic from English-speaking countries largely because the history and tradition of clockmaking in those countries are well-established.
Many antique clocks originate from English-speaking countries, especially the UK and the USA, where clockmaking has a long history. Antique clocks are a niche, and those who are passionate about it actively seek out detailed and well-researched content like my blog, which attracts dedicated collectors and enthusiasts from these countries.
A word about ads and monetization
Creating high-quality content, engaging with readers, and maintaining a blog requires significant time and effort. Monetization through ad content allows me to be compensated for my work, motivating me to continue producing valuable content for my audience.
Monetization provides me with a steady income stream, enabling me to cover the costs associated with running my blog, such as hosting fees, server space, domain registration, email, and content creation. This financial support allows me to reinvest in my blog, improve its quality, and expand my reach, leading to long-term sustainability and growth.
Translation Applet
To encourage a global audience, this blog features a convenient language translation applet on the front page, enabling visitors to explore its content in the language of their choice.
This user-friendly feature fosters a more inclusive and enjoyable experience for readers from diverse linguistic backgrounds.
Every blogger understands that building a successful blog takes time, often requiring months or even years to cultivate a loyal following. Challenges, patience, determination, and hard work eventually lead to finding a successful rhythm.
The author at work
With over 825,000 page views since 2015, and an average of 24,000 monthly views, I recently reviewed my blog’s statistics to identify the top 10 most popular posts of all time. Most entries on the list align with my expectations, catering to visitors seeking basic advice on clock acquisition, winding keys, or determining the value of their clocks. However, some are more unexpected.
More importantly, analyzing the top articles reveals that the majority of visitors to my blog are either newcomers to clock collecting or repair, recent owners of antique clocks seeking information, individuals with some knowledge looking to expand their expertise, or enthusiasts deeply engaged in the clock repair hobby seeking additional insights.
My office, and where I compose my twice-weekly articles
Experts in the field may seek information elsewhere, which aligns with my blog’s intended audience. My blog was never aimed at those operating clock repair businesses, involved in the antique clock market, or pursuing extensive restoration projects, but I provide a way for those dabbling into antique clocks for the first time or those seeking answers to common questions all in one easy-to-navigate place.
Life is not perfect. Why should our antique clocks be any different? As we grow older, our possessions undergo a similar transformation. Just as aging imparts a unique character to metal through oxidation and rust, the term “patina” extends beyond its common association with metallic items to antique objects generally. It encapsulates the idea that our belongings, over time, develop distinctive qualities that result from reactions to various elements and the passage of time.
Hamilton Clock Co Gothic steeple
Although the hands of a clock move forward no one has figured out how to freeze time or better yet, turn it backward.
During my initial foray into clock collecting and clock repair, my goal was to resurrect non-functional vintage or antique clocks, restoring both their cases and movements to their original state.
While I was tempted to make changes to the case to improve its presentation my priority has now shifted somewhat and lies in ensuring that the fundamental purpose of the clock—accurately telling the time—is fully realized. While addressing structural concerns like a broken backboard hindering the hanging of a wall clock is essential and demands attention, the case, imperfections and all, can be left in its original state.
Arthur Pequegnat Maple Leaf kitchen clock: has its character been lost through restoration?
The purpose of a clock was to serve the original owner in any manner they deemed suitable, primarily by functioning and accurately displaying the time. Any scratches or blemishes on the case were secondary considerations compared to the clock’s primary function of timekeeping. 100 years ago a clock for the family home served as a common reference point for coordinating daily activities. It helped family members synchronize their schedules for meals, work, and social events. Daily household routines, such as waking up, going to bed, and managing chores, were often organized around specific times. A functioning clock (and oftentimes the only clock) was fundamental for maintaining order and structure within the home.
It can also be said that certain clocks were regarded as furniture pieces, receiving the same attention in terms of dusting, waxing, and overall care as any other furnishings of that era. Clocks such as these have survived quite well in their original state and its history has not been washed away with alterations.
The real attraction to unrestored original items is a relatively new phenomenon, perhaps stemming from a response to our modern throwaway society where nothing seems to last. We can point to an old clock and say, that object has lasted all these years despite its age-related scars.
The dilemma of restoration, yes or no to refinishing this clock case?
But does something that takes on a surface appearance that has grown old become a thing of beauty? The answer is, yes. Every bit of patina on a clock speaks to something from its past, things that have happened to a clock through the ages whether you can see the cause or not and that makes the clock more interesting.
A clock that attempts to go back in time through restoration, no matter how good the job is, for all intents and purposes is a facsimile, a replica, or a reproduction. Many might consider all restoration as fiction. However, some folks will take fictitious or like-new any day because new-looking and shiny is somehow “better” and it is their belief that condition always equates to increased desirability.
George H. Clark 30-hourOgee, restored by theprevious owner; is like-new better?
The concept of patina extends beyond its traditional association with oxidized metal, offering a broader perspective on the aging and transformation of old clocks. Patina embodies a unique character that evolves over time. It reflects a growing interest in preserving the enduring quality of items, a sentiment that contrasts with the disposable nature of our modern society.
As the holiday season approaches, the search for a unique and meaningful gift becomes crucial. Antique or vintage clocks, often overlooked, can make a delightful and “timely” present. Whether you’re knowledgeable about clocks or a novice, finding the right one requires some understanding, and I’m here to provide you with some helpful pointers and explanations.
Why Buy an Antique or Vintage Clock?
People are drawn to antique or vintage clocks for sentimental reasons, the desire to own something antique, or the allure of a unique old mechanical clock. These reasons often top the list for those considering such a purchase.
Antique, Vintage or collectible
Determining the age of a clock can be tricky but a well-informed seller can confidently provide accurate information about the clock’s age to potential buyers, ensuring a fair and transparent transaction. Moreover, a clock’s age can often be determined through a date stamp on the movement or labels, providing accurate dating information for both sellers and buyers.
Generally, anything over 100 years old is considered antique, while vintage refers to items less than 100 years old but more than 30 years old. Items younger than 30 years are often called collectibles.
A Mauthe vintage clock from the 1940s
Types of Clocks: Mechanical or Otherwise
While there is a wide variety of clocks available, this article focuses on mechanical clocks both vintage and antique. Quartz clocks are common but have limited value. Electro-mechanical and electromagnetic clocks, while intriguing, are best left to expert collectors. Electric clocks from the 1930s and 1940s might intrigue the buyer but can be difficult to maintain and a non-functional clock can be potentially dangerous to those with a limited knowledge of electrical devices.
Choosing the Right Clock and Placement
Consider the available space when selecting a clock. Mantel clocks need shelves or tables, while wall clocks come in various sizes and styles and placement is less of a challenge. Although wall clocks require minimal space, some are hesitant to puncture a wall with a nail.
Ingraham Grecian shelf or mantel clock
Grandfather clocks (otherwise known in some circles as tall case, long case, and hall clocks), particularly those with impressive craftsmanship require ample floor space and a keen appreciation from the recipient.
Know the recipient if you are gifting a tall case clock
Furthermore, gifting a grandfather clock to an appreciative recipient ensures that it becomes a cherished heirloom, to be passed down through generations.
Cottage clocks, alarm clocks, and novelty clocks are compact, allowing them to fit into small spaces and be placed virtually anywhere.
This Sessions cottage clock is only 9 inches tall
Working or Non-Working Clock?
Ideally, a working clock recently serviced by a professional is the best choice and has the highest value. If a functional clock is used purely for decorative purposes, it can later be sold without affecting its value.
Sessions American No. 2, a working clock gifted as a decoration
If the clock serves a primarily decorative purpose, non-working ones can still be considered. Clocks as decorations often add a touch of vintage charm to a space, enhancing its aesthetic appeal. They can also evoke a sense of nostalgia, reminding individuals of days gone by. In addition, antique clocks with intricate designs can be conversation starters, becoming focal points in a room and reflecting the owner’s unique style and taste.
Tips for Clock Buying:
Give preference to clocks that are operational; they are typically better maintained and can be easily resold by the recipient.
Explore platforms like Facebook Marketplace, eBay, or local online sale sites. Opting for local transactions is favored because it eliminates the inconvenience of shipping, and meeting the seller in person provides the buyer with the flexibility to reconsider the purchase.
Common clocks such as mantel clocks from the 1930s and 1940s are affordably priced, while unique or rare pieces might come at a much higher cost. In the realm of clocks, the determining factor for pricing isn’t solely the age of the clock, whether it’s 120 years old or 50. Rarity plays a significant role in establishing the value of a clock instead.
Steer clear of clocks featuring directional arrows at the winding points; many of these are mass-produced Chinese clocks that come with powerful mainsprings, posing risks if they malfunction.
The clock’s manufacturer is only vital if you’re seeking an exceptionally unique piece and are willing to spend significantly; instead, concentrate on the overall quality of the clock and its visual appeal.
Conducting research is crucial to making a well-informed purchase decision. Examples are online resources, realized auction sales, networking, antique store visits, and books/publications.
Be wary of any alterations, as they not only impact the clock’s value but can also alter its historical and aesthetic integrity. Thoroughly understanding the clock’s originality through basic research ensures a more satisfying and meaningful purchase.
Whenever feasible, examine the clock in person to prevent unexpected disappointment. During the inspection, pay attention to the clock’s condition, checking for signs of wear, damage, or repairs. Examine the clock’s movement, and listen for any unusual sounds. Assess the quality of the materials and craftsmanship, ensuring they align with the stated age and value of the clock. Confirm the presence of any original parts, as replacement parts (hands, dial face, pendulum bob, etc.) can affect its authenticity and worth. Finally, if possible, request a demonstration of the clock in action to ensure it operates smoothly and accurately.
I hope these insights help you find the perfect clock for your special someone. I want to emphasize that I am not engaged in the business of selling clocks. Although I occasionally sell clocks locally, it’s solely to manage my personal collection and not as a commercial endeavor. Please be aware that I do not have clocks available for sale.
It’s time for us to unwind, slow down, and embrace a change of scenery. My wife and I are heading to our cottage in central Canada for the summer season, where we plan to relax, read good books, indulge in fishing, swimming, and hiking, and share stories with friends and neighbors while savoring a glass (or two) of wine.
The lake
Even though many of my blog articles have been written well ahead of the summer months, there will be no interruption in posts throughout this period. I will continue to maintain a consistent output of two articles a week.
Just as Dean Martin used to say at the end of his TV variety show, “Keep those cards and letters coming!” While there might be a slight delay in responding to your email inquiries or blog post comments, please rest assured that your questions about your clock or comments on any of my posts are significant to me and will be addressed.
Mission style clock found in a thrift shop in the Quebec area
This blog primarily showcases my own clock collection, delves into the challenges of clock maintenance and repair, shares the joys of discovering new and intriguing vintage and antique clocks, and covers various horological topics of interest.
A Gilbert clock found on Facebook marketplace and a summer project
As we explore central Canada, I anticipate stumbling upon fascinating clocks in antique stores, flea markets, and other unique shops. Alongside documenting new clock stories, I’ll also face fresh repair challenges and perhaps undertake the next major restoration project during my summer journey.
The Canadian Clock Museum
Additionally, I’m excited to revisit The Canadian Clock Museum in Deep River, Ontario, where I’ll discover new and captivating clocks added to their collection and engage in conversations with curator Allan Symons.
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This has been the most exciting year yet for antiquevintageclock.com. The blog has done very well and naturally, it is always a thrill to reach the milestone of the most views in the seven years I have had this blog.
It has taken time to build a following, more time than I’ve ever imagined. It takes planning, research, and an investment of energy but most importantly a strong commitment to producing quality articles on a twice-weekly basis.
After seven years I still consider myself a clock generalist though I feel I have become an expert in some areas. Judging from the email I received from you I appeal to a like-minded group who have either stumbled onto my site looking for advice and direction on a particular clock repair issue or are regular visitors who appreciate the content and express their thanks accordingly.
As I look over the articles that have the most views this year it is clear that most of my viewers from around the world are looking for direction with how-to and general-interest articles topping the list.
American New Haven clock movement
The statistics this year speak for themselves with over 190,000 views, and 101,000 visitors from 161 countries. Over the past seven years, there have been over 525,000 views.
The number of views also supports my blog by providing advertising revenue which pays for blog server space, domain registration, email service, cloud storage, clock supplies, and membership dues for NAWCC.
This year I have introduced a new email address to reduce the number of emails that go astray in my personal email account. The new address is ronjoiner@antiquevintageclock.com. Please continue to write to me with your clock issues and with general comments relating to my blog articles.
Again thanks and if you are here for the first time, welcome to articles concerning clock restoration and repair and articles about antique and vintage clocks in general and if you are a frequent flyer, thanks for supporting me all these years.
This 30-hour shelf clock (hour strike) was manufactured by American clock-maker E. Ingraham and Co. in the 1870s. There are various iterations of the name over the maker’s history but this was the one the company used from 1861 to 1880.
The clock was bought at auction in mid-March 2022 along with 3 other clocks. In this post, I will take the reader through the process of refreshing the case.
Auction photo
This is an excellent example of a tired case that needs attention. When I look at a clock case such as this I assume the movement is well worn but a pleasant surprise awaited.
The movement is in surprisingly good condition as a result of regular (somewhat) servicing over the years. It has been in the shop at least three times, 1879, 1916, and 1994 according to dates found on the back of the case and perhaps more occasions that are not recorded.
Analysis of the caseand plan of action
The gold banding on the front face of the “octagon top” and the inside frame of the access door has some losses and the goal is to hide the nicks with gold artist’s paint matched to the trim. First of all, it is not a true octagon but half of one, but that is how these clocks are described.
The overall finish is in fair condition. Numerous cosmetic issues such as scratches and nicks here and there over the rosewood case are evident, but a good cleaning with soap and water followed by a fresh coat of shellac should fill in the scratches and improve things dramatically.
Auction photo showing nicks and scratches
The dial shows considerable wear after years of daily use and this is a situation where a replacement paper dial might be considered but I am always hesitant because replacement dials take a certain something away from and antique clock.
However, I am going to see what I can do by attempting to bring the numbers back with black acrylic paint while retaining some of the patina.
The moon hands look correct for the period of the clock.
As a collector who has seen a good number of these styles of clocks, I first thought the access door glass was a replacement since many clocks from the early to late 19th century had reverse painted tablets.
Because of the decorative pendulum and the bright brass bell both meant to be seen, the stylized panel that serves as the base for the dial, the total absence of any paint remnants, the glass panel with its waviness and various imperfections plus the putty-like material that is used to mount the glass to the door, the glass appears to be original to the case. A pleasant surprise!
It is always a bit of a disappointment when something is lost or changed on an antique clock especially one that is close to 150 years old and when replacement parts are difficult to source.
No doubt some of the scratches on the case, dents, etc. (not all, of course) are the result of rough handling either when transporting the item to the auction house or during its stay.
Addressing issues with the case
The very first step is a good cleaning. Cleaning a clock will generally result in the removal of some of its protective finish but it is inevitable given that it has been on the clock a long time.
Auctionphoto
For old American clocks I generally use traditional shellac made by combining shellac lacquer with shellac flakes. Amber Shellac adds a certain hue to the case and the cut is light enough that it dries to the touch in less than a minute which is my preference.
When there are large flat surfaces I will use a “french polish” but for this project, a broad artist’s brush is best. I apply the shellac in long strokes completing each section at a time.
The decorative black wood panel that serves as the dial mount is also shellacked allowing for small scratches to fill in very nicely.
The original paper dial is well worn and presents significant challenges as all the numbers on the dial are either partially worn off or completely erased. This was a well-used clock!
Top and bottom lines of the numerals are filled in
Using an artist’s fine-tipped brush, black multi-surface acrylic paint, and a steady hand I filled in as much as I could. The numbers around the winding arbours were the worst because I had little to work with and they were the most difficult to reproduce.
Once all the Roman numerals were completed and thoroughly dry, I used a Sharpie fine-tip “artist’s permanent marker” and a straight edge to clean up the lines. I decided not to touch up the chapter ring other than the 5-minute markers. I am not entirely happy with the number 4 on the dial but that’s as far I am going.
Closer view of the dial
As for the gold trim on the face, I did not want to mess with the patina, nor did I wish to cover the gold which would have completely taken away from the antique look. I mixed acrylic multi-surface gold paint and a very small dab of black paint for an “aged” effect and used a fine-tipped artist’s brush to carefully dab the bare areas.
Finally, the brass bezel and inner ring were given a polishing.
The clock is complete
The clock has been transformed. The dial has been rejuvenated, the movement serviced and reinstalled, the bell gong attached, the case given its many touch-ups, and the decorative pendulum is attached. Now to regulate the clock.
In the final analysis, I believe that I have struck the balance every collector and restorer seeks and that is maintaining the original patina of the clock while not taking away its antique look. It is 145 year old antique that has seen good use over the years but applying modern techniques that are minimally invasive have brought it back to life.
I have one more decision to make. I acquired this and three other clocks to sell in order to offset the cost of new equipment but now that I have seen the final result I wonder!
Will antique and vintage clock prices go up or down in 2022? Is this the time to buy or sell? Read further for my thoughts and observations.
First off, some definitions. According to the United States Government, the term “antique” is reserved for items that are over a century old. Webster’s dictionary defines an antique as a work of art, piece of furniture, or decorative object made at an earlier period and according to various customs laws at least 100 years ago. Wikipedia defines antiques as applying to objects at least 100 years old.
The word “vintage”, according to eBay and other sources, is a defined period that is less than 100 years but more than 30 years. You may find various definitions of vintage for example in the jewellery business vintage may be considered as anything 10 to 20 or more years.
Anyone, who regularly shops for antique or vintage clocks is well aware that the clock market has been depressed for quite some time but is this the time to sell or buy?
Pricing is as volatile as it was a year ago. There is no true “standard” pricing for any vintage or antique clock. As with most objects, there is a price range that most would consider reasonable.
A price more or less consistent with prices achieved at reputable auction houses and online for sale sites,
The condition of the clock, whether it runs or not and if it has been serviced,
A seller’s personal experience buying and/or selling online,
A seller prices higher than the value leaving room for a downward negotiated price,
A seller knows that most clocks are not sold to a serious collector and count on uneducated buyers who think they are worth more than they are.
Factors affecting the sale of clocks
Any object is ultimately worth what someone is willing to pay a higher price for it. High-end and truly rare clocks have managed to retain their value althrugh sales are largely based on market conditions and demand.
But what conditions influence the sale of run-of-the-mill antique and vintage mechanical clocks and those of slightly better quality?
Antique and vintage clocks have flooded the market in the past several years driving prices steadily downwards. The new generation of millennials have little interest in antiques and find it pointless to collect antique and vintage clocks.
Modern homes do not have the room for clocks as floor and wall space is limited. In an age when families are living in 800 square foot apartments space is at a premium though that could change as people migrant from dense cities to smaller communities. And when space is at a premium grandfather clocks and jeweller’s regulator clocks though finely crafted and cost thousands when new are not items many would consider as wants for the modern family home. Sentimental reasons aside, the cost of servicing far exceeds the value if the desire is to have a working clock.
I don’t have a crystal ball but judging from prices in the past few years I can comfortably predict that things will be much the same. I do not expect a significant change in 2022 or beyond. It is a buyer’s market and there are some terrific bargains out there. Knowledge is power and no doubt there are some great clocks to be found but shop carefully and do your homework.
Ringing in the New Year is for reminiscing, reliving, looking back, and looking forward.
However, I’ll be honest; let’s hope that 2022 is a whole lot better. We got through 2021 but for many of us, the ongoing pandemic has left an indelible mark. Promises were made and broken, plans were made and altered, hopes and dreams were reshaped.
The antiquevintageclock.com family wishes to convey our sympathy and condolences to those deeply affected by the pandemic.
Now let’s begin the New Year in style.
As champagne corks pop, glasses are raised and fireworks explode into the sky, it is important to recognize the special symbolism this holiday brings with it.
Amid promises of new beginnings and fresh starts comes a time of reflection and resolutions that more often than not tend to be short-lived.
A broken clock
Take my advice; why burden yourself with resolutions that will go nowhere and disappoint you in the end.
For you clock lovers, where will your horological journey take you this year? Will it be finding that special clock, finally servicing mom’s prized mantel clock, building your clock repair skills, reading about wonderful clocks on blogs such as this, buying that unique clock repair tool, or reading that special clock book?
May the New Year bring you prosperity and happiness.
The last two years have taught us to be very thankful for family, friends, and relationships. Of course, we all wish we could be celebrating the holidays in a very different way in 2021 but just when we thought we were seeing the end of the pandemic another wave is crashing over us.
Unfortunately, celebrations will be confined to immediate family and close friends. Who would have thought the pandemic would last as long as it did and through all of this we must press on and continue to be vigilant. Is there an end in sight? I certainly hope so.
Holiday in Lego Land
The pandemic has taught us to appreciate the simpler things in life and during this festive season of giving and receiving, let us take time to slow down and be thankful for what we have.
Christmas at home
May this wonderful time of the year touch your heart and the hearts of your loved ones in a special way.
If there is a clock under the tree consider it a timely gift to remind you of days gone by and of happy memories when families got together to celebrate love, togetherness, and a feast to remember.
I understand the sentiment but a sad end to a tambour style clock
The holiday season is not about getting what you want but appreciating what you have.
Wishing you much happiness not just today, but throughout the coming year.
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I have a growing collection of clocks with upwards of 85 in my collection. My focus is on clocks made in Canada that are entirely manufactured in this country or companies such as Fleet and Forestville, that assembled clocks with foreign/domestic cases and movements. In addition, I have many other clocks that were made in France, Briton, Germany, Austria and so on.
In terms of style, my particular interest is wall clocks. Within my collection, I have 21 wall clocks, the oldest around 1870, and the newest is from the 1930s.
I would like to add one more to my collection but it is sitting in an auction house awaiting my bid. This post will describe my experience bidding on a clock at an online auction. Did I win the clock? Read on and the answer will be revealed at the end of the post.
During pandemic times it is probably safer purchasing a clock online. There remains a risk however. Unknowns are the condition of the case, who the maker is, the state of the movement and what time and money it will take to service it. At this point I only have photos to go on. This is an estate auction and the auction house is located 1 1/2 hours drive from my home.
The clock appears to be a vintage oak-cased German time and strike from about the 1930s. I am guessing Mauthe as the maker since there is no indication from the auction information as to who made the clock. Many German makes have the company name or logo on the dial face; there is nothing on this one. Nevertheless, It looks like a good prospect and I will chance it.
Box clocks were all the fashion in the 1920s and 1930s but those with round tops were less common. Many German tall case or hall clocks of that era had round tops so it is unusual to see a round top on a wall clock. Nevertheless, it is a very attractive clock with simple lines in the Art Deco style.
The three tall panes of beveled glass look good. There appears to be a scratch or a crack on the right hand section of the door about halfway up, but nothing is showing on the inside of the door in that area.
There are no pictures of the movement but one can see the movement seat board thumb screws and the winding arbours in the next shot. The rod gong is visible behind the pendulum rod and it looks like a rod lock at the midway point.
The item description does not say it is running and it does not come with a key. The pendulum is crooked on the auction photo which might mean the connecting hook is broken or it is hooked incorrectly.
This is an online auction called a “Lockdown Live Auction” that, as of this writing, closes in one day.
I have a good feeling about winning this item for four reasons.
One, it is the only clock offered which means that clock collectors will not be drawn to this auction,
There is no reserve bid, the opening bid is $5.00 A reserve is off-putting because auction houses that seldom have clocks for offer, price them higher than they are worth,
There has been no pre-bidding yet and,
It is offered without a key which means that it may or may not be running and might or might not need adjustment or repair. The casual collector might avoid this one.
The auction house allows all bidders to set up a “watch list” and I will be monitoring the bids on this item until the item hits the “auction floor” tomorrow.
A Google search reveals that this style of clock is uncommon but I found one that sold at auction for $100. It was described as an unknown German wall clock.
What would I bid? I am going no higher than $75 but winning it for less would be nice. The final price includes a buyers premium of 15%, 15% sales tax and shipping.
The next day
At 10:30 AM there have been a couple of pre-bids and the clock is now at $12.50. I held off bidding until 8 minutes before it came up for sale at 8:00 PM. At the 8 minute-to point the bidding was $22.50. I placed a “high bid” of $60 which means paying only a small amount more than the next highest bid. Not wanting to get caught up in last second bidding, I walked away from the computer. I was prepared to let it go if I lost the bid.
I returned later to discover that I had won the item for $52.50. With buyers premium, tax, and delivery the final cost is $73.43.
Who is the maker?
The clock arrived. There is no trademark name on the dial face, and nothing on the outside of the case to identify the maker.
The movement sits on a seat board, typical of most German clocks. I released two thumbscrews at the bottom of the seat board and slid the movement out for further inspection. There is no maker’s mark on either the movement or the iron block of the 4-rod gong.
These two shots are the front and back of the rack and snail time and strike movement.
There are two numbers on the bottom right of the rear plate, 43 (length of pendulum rod) and 104, (beats per minute). Using those two numbers and the search terms “German”, “wall clock” and “round top” I conducted a search on the internet and found a matching clock. I compared the design of the plates on mine with the clock I found and it is a Kienzle from the early 1930s or late 1920s.
Who is Kienzle?
Kienzle is a well-respected German clock company that has a long history.
The company was founded in Schwenningen in southern Germany, in the Black Forest, by Johannes Schlenker, in 1822. In 1883, Jakob Kienzle became part of the family by marriage, and took control of the company, becoming its sole owner in 1897.
He revolutionized production by mass-producing individual components and then assembling them. This modern manufacturing approach led to a massive expansion, and by 1939, Kienzle had over 3,500 employees and was making about 5 million wall-clocks and table clocks per year.
The company continued on through the years, changing hands a couple of times and gradually shifted production to wristwatches. It still exits today.
The most distinctive feature of this clock is the 4-rod bim-bam strike. Probably the nicest sound of any striking clock that I have.
I wound both sides and it runs well but the movement is dirty and requires a servicing. Stay tuned for that.
If you are a collector or simply have a general interest in mechanical clocks and wish to sell antique and/or vintage clocks then, read on. I am not a seller but I purchase clocks to build my collection.
I occasionally sell clocks locally as a way to manage my collection. Most of the clocks I’ve sold have been serviced by me, and my main goal is to recover the time spent on cleaning and repairs, rather than promoting sales on my blog.
Mauthe buffet clock C. 1950
The Difference between Antique and Vintage
Let’s begin with definitions. Antique is anything over 100 years old and vintage is less than 100 years but more than 30 years old. Anything that is less than 30 years old may be considered vintage but more often it is called collectible. Try to pass off a 30-year-old clock as an antique and you will turn off a lot of prospective buyers.
Miniature one-weight Vienna wall clock C.1870
Clock Terms
When selling a mantel clock, it’s important to use ‘mantel,’ not ‘mantle.’ A mantel refers to a shelf or structure, while a mantle is something one wears. Using the correct terminology also signals that you have a deeper knowledge of clocks than the average person.
A clock with two winding points (with some exceptions) is typically referred to as a striking clock, which strikes but does not ‘chime.’ A chiming clock usually plays a quarter-hour melody, such as Westminster or Whittington, and often has three winding points (though there are exceptions). There is no such thing as a ‘Tempus Fugit’ clock; ‘Tempus Fugit’ simply means ‘time flies in Latin.
A grandfather clock is a clock that stands 6 feet or taller and is not a wall clock. A grandmother clock is a floor clock that measures less than 6 feet in height. Grandfather clocks are also known as tall-case clocks, longcase clocks, or hall clocks.
Gingerbread and parlour clocks are distinct in design, but both are typically classified as kitchen clocks.
There are many other styles but let’s leave it at that.
Honesty and Disclosure
In my view, the most important element in selling a clock is honesty.
Inform the prospective buyer by describing as much detail as possible about the clock without getting too wordy. A clock that is a marriage, a case with a similar but replacement movement, should be stated as such. Replacement glass, newer dial, replacement crowns and finials, case repairs, or full case restoration should also be disclosed, perhaps not immediately in your ad but as a follow-up.
If the clock is running and was recently serviced by a competent repair person, state such in your ad. If the clock is running but the movement requires cleaning it should be stated as such. If it is not running explain why and what issues it might have such as a broken mainspring, missing pendulum bob, missing winding key, and so on. If you don’t know why it is not running, say so but be honest about it.
If you’re selling a clock and don’t know much about it, be honest and say so. Similarly, if you’re selling clocks in general but lack knowledge about them, it’s better to be transparent about that as well.
If your clock is rare, indicate why it is rare and support your claim with credible documentation including its provenance.
E. Ingraham shelf clock C.1878, not rare but uncommon
Establishing a Value
Research auction prices to get a feel for the value of similar clocks that are offered for sale and the price realized. Sources are Kijiji, Facebook Marketplace, eBay, and any number of respectable auction houses.
There will be a range of prices and something in the middle of the range is a good guide though its condition will determine what people expect to pay.
Determining the condition of a clock is an important factor in evaluating its value. The clock’s overall appearance, functionality, and any repairs or restorations it has undergone will all impact its worth. A clock in poor condition generally has a lower value than one in excellent condition, as potential buyers may factor in the cost and effort required to restore it.
Know that a clock is only worth as much as someone will pay. If you price your clock too high you will know it soon enough.
Rare and desirable clocks, as well as clocks with an interesting provenance, will command higher prices.
Clocks also vary in price according to the geographic location where they are sold. Generally, clocks that are made in the same location as the clock is sold will command higher prices. English and German bracket clocks are not as popular in America as they are in Europe and are priced accordingly.
Preparations for Sale
A clock in running condition will fetch a higher price than one that is not. A professionally serviced clock in excellent running order will command an even higher price. A clock case cleaned of grime will present better than a dirty one. Missing hands or dial glass will adversely affect the price. Items such as these can be replaced and parts are available from clock suppliers but it becomes an extra cost for the buyer and for many, it is a deal-breaker.
If you are handy at clock repair, servicing the movement or any case repairs will enhance the value of the clock you are selling. If you have serviced a clock, always be clear about the work you’ve done. Describe in detail the specific repairs, cleaning, or adjustments you’ve made to the movement, as well as any parts that were replaced or restored.
This transparency not only helps potential buyers understand the value of the clock but also assures them that the clock is in good working condition. Whether it’s oiling, replacing worn parts, or correcting any mechanical issues, providing this information builds trust and demonstrates your expertise.
The term servicing has many definitions. Be wary as sellers may claim a clock has been serviced if the only thing done to it is oiling. Among reputable clock repairers, servicing is defined as, taking the movement out of its case, disassembling the movement, cleaning the parts, addressing wear issues/repairs/parts replacement, reassembly, oiling, and testing before reinstalling it back into the case.
Sessions Raven time and strike shelf clock
Visual Presentation
While few cell phones (though some are improving) can capture highly detailed images of a clock, they often suffice for many purposes. However, blurry or out-of-focus photos are unacceptable.
Smiths Enfield mantel clock serviced and ready for its new owner
Several images from different angles as well as a photo of the inside of the clock case are much more helpful than one photo. During the daylight, place the clock near a window and position yourself between the window and the clock to take a series of photos in natural light. If there is damage or wear take close-up photos of those areas.
In general, a dedicated camera with artificial light will produce better results than a cell phone camera.
Clock Description
Crafting an ad is an art in itself. You must be concise and accurate and not overly wordy. There is a balance between too little and too much information. Less information means fewer inquiries from prospective buyers. Too much information with technical terms will turn off prospective buyers. Try to anticipate the questions prospective buyers might have in order to limit the number of follow-up queries.
State the clock’s maker if known, the model if possible, the year it was made, the type, (time-only, time and strike, chiming clock), the style of clock (mantel, wall, shelf, parlour, Ogee, tall-case, etc.). as well as any interesting features, for example, a steeple clock with an alarm function or a clock with a second’s hand. Along with your description state the approximate age. If you do not know, a picture of the maker’s mark on the dial or the movement will assist prospective buyers.
While it’s not necessary to give a reason for selling, doing so can sometimes enhance the ad.
1860s era Seth Thomas column and cornice shelf clock
Where to Advertize
There are a number of ways to sell a clock. Facebook Marketplace is very popular. Other local online for-sale sites, eBay, flea markets, consignment shops, and auction houses are popular places to sell a clock. Setting up an account for most online sites is a pre-requisite but there is usually no cost.
Mauthe wall clock circa 1899
Example of a Poor Ad
Antique clock, comes with key, $250
Example of an Eye-catching Ad
Scaling down my collection. Antique German time and strike clock made by Friedrich Mauthe, circa 1899. Completely serviced in 2019 which includes disassembly and addressing worn parts. Original glass, mild refresh of the case, new wall stabilizers, and new arch piece. Ran for many years in a family home in Parsboro, Nova Scotia. Runs well and keeps good time, original key supplied. $250
Juba Schatz time and strike mantel clock
Final Remarks
While selling a clock can be a frustrating experience, it can also be quite satisfying. I choose to sell locally to avoid shipping costs and the risk of items arriving damaged. Meeting the buyer in person allows me to answer any questions they may have and provide a more personal experience.
Though this is not a definitive guide to selling, I hope these pointers and ideas will help when you decide to sell (or buy) your antique or vintage mechanical clock.
There is enough confusion among clock collectors and owners of antique and vintage items that it prompts a discussion.
The terms vintage and antique are often used interchangeably, and often incorrectly.
Vintage or antique, Seth Thomas adamantine mantel clock C.1911
According to the United States Government, the term “antique” is reserved for valuables that are over a century old. Webster’s dictionary defines an antique as a work of art, piece of furniture, or decorative object made at an earlier period and according to various customs laws at least 100 years ago. Wikipedia defines antique as applying to objects at least 100 years old. Therefore, most sources define the term “antique” as items that are 100 years or more.
The word “vintage”, according to eBay, is a defined period that is less than 100 years but more than 30 years. To many, vintage often means anything that is not new, is dirty, worn, or looks like it might be old if nothing is know about its provenance.
Vintage Fleet Time mantel clock C. 1936
The word vintage is as overused, and misused, as the word “antique”.
The use of the word vintage in auctions is becoming used more. Most often the seller who knows nothing about what they are offering for sale will use the term vintage or even “rare” and hope the buyer is convinced.
Some items that were considered rare many years ago are common today. Take the 30-hour ogee clock which was once considered rare but with the advent of the internet thousands were offered for sale and prices dropped accordingly. “Rare” then became “antique”. What is truly rare today are one-of clocks that have an significant provenance.
The word “collectible” is another clever marketing term, and like the word vintage, has been misused. It presumes that the item offered must be added to what you already have and because it is the one piece you need the most, it will cost you more.
Jewelry is an interesting example. Anything over twenty years old is considered vintage. Some terms like “near” vintage and “true” vintage are often used. I assume any number of years can be assigned to “near” or “true” although “near” seems to mean “almost new” and sounds better than the word “used”.
Antique George H Clark 30-hour ogee clock
In my view no quartz clock has any value. However, in 1970, Junghans invented the Astor-Quartz wristwatch which entered series production in 1972. Watch collectors everywhere would consider the Junghans quartz watch to be a highly collectible vintage timepiece even though it is quartz.
Take the time to research your prospective purchase by consulting various sources which will inform you of the age of the clock you are shopping for.
Some clocks can be dated precisely by serial number, patent date or date stamps on the movements. Many clocks can be dated with some accuracy but often it is a challenge at times to determine the age of a particular clock unless you compare the style and movement type with others of the same period.
Vintage or antique Canadian time wall clock
In my collection is an Arthur Pequegnat Canadian Time clock which is quite old but I do not know it’s exact year of manufacture but I can place it within a range of dates. It was made by the company between 1917 and 1941. There is nothing noteworthy about the movement or style of the case that determines the year it was made.
Whether antique, vintage or collectible, if you enjoy your clock nothing else truly matters.
But, if you are selling a clock it is important to inform your prospective buyer and give them the best information possible to help them make a decision.
Tick-Talk Tuesday is about the letters and comments I have received from you, the reader, concerning your clock, issues you might have had, challenges you face or a clock you would like me to profile or my responses to your questions with advice on your particular clock concern. For those comments and questions that stump even me, I consult within my clock circles for the best possible answer
MM writes, “Attached are photos of a clock my mom has. She is downsizing and does not have room for this clock. The key is there and the best I can tell the clock works and chimes. Nobody in the family has an interest. Can you suggest what she can do with this clock.
Jauch wall clock
Jauch, the maker of your clocks, was a German clock manufacturer that made fine German clocks for the masses. Other German makers made higher end clocks but many people bought Jauch clocks for their homes because the price fit within their budget. Jauch sold popular styles of clocks over a number of years but finally folded in the mid 1970s.
Westminster chime clocks can be easily sold online. I would suggest Facebook Marketplace where she could sell locally and would be able to get something in the $125 range.
She could also gift it to a friend or acquaintance.”
Dial showing three winding arbours, a chiming clock
MM evidently reconsidered and decided to keep the clock. MM replied “I’ve decided to keep the clock myself. Are there any precautions needed before movement. Do I have to secure or remove the pendulum, etc.?”
My reply, “Unhook the pendulum. You may want to wrap the pendulum in paper or tissue and place it back in the case unhooked for transport. Make sure the key is inside the case and ensure the door clasp is secure.”
“Thank you for all your help”, MM replied.
Authors’ note
It is a shame that many fine clocks are thrown away or discarded in some fashion. The generation of folks who cherished old clocks are dying off and the newer generation either sees them as irrelevant or they don’t fit the decor. People are now living longer and pass off their possessions to “children” who are already retired and have enough “stuff” of their own.
Family heirlooms are lost forever.
Clocks are the mechanical wonders of a lost era. How many machines do you know work perfectly after 100 years?
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